The 'Community Forum'
An Easy-Access Message Board

© Walter Geldart - Sept, 1998


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The first issue of the EMBTI Electronic Journal was published on the Internet in August, at about the same time as the opening of the 1998 IEA Conference in Denver. The mission of this Electronic Journal, as stated on its front page, is to "explore human consciousness through a study of personality type".

This second issue of the EMBTI Journal announces a new message board that is part of an EMBTI information system that is integrated and interactive. We have decided to call this message board the 'Community Forum', because we hope that it will provide our website visitors with a forum in which they join into dialogue with us and other visitors on the topic of the relationship between the Enneagram and the MBTI, and related subjects.

This 'easy access' message board is now open to the Internet public, and you all are invited to explore its features. It too has the same mission as the EMBTI Journal - but this time through the media of an interactive message board. Your email letters to the editor since Issue #1 have demonstrated the need for a Community Forum like this where beginners and professionals alike can gather to engage in dialog on personality type systems such as enneagram personality types, MBTIŽ type, Keirsey Temperament, and Jungian type.

The editors, John Fudjack and Pat Dinkelaker, have asked me to keep my eye on the EMBTI Community Forum, and to act as a sort of host so that people can come together in a friendly electronic community. I have agreed to play this role because I believe that the EMBTI Electronic Journal is already playing an important role as a common electronic ground. The Community Forum is a logical next step to increase the common meeting ground for visitors, friends, and regular members of the EMBTI community.

It is our belief that there is much to learn at the common ground between systems such as the older MBTI TypeŽ, Keirsey Temperament, the newer Enneagram Personality Types, and Enneagram Processes. These proven long standing Type and Temperament systems have been in widespread use for over two decades, but new advances continue to be made by leaders in these fields. We will have an opportunity to report on and discuss some of their new publications in future issues of the Journal. The enneagram community can learn much from the published work of these pioneers. But we also believe that these pioneers can gain some new insights into the dynamics of human consciousness from an enneagram perspective. We have found that the language of Jungian psychology is very general and quite adaptable to the enneagram, in ways that many had not suspected before the published research and theory in Issue #1 of the EMBTI. The vision of a simple way to explain the dynamics of type and temperament has been elusive. But modern enneagram process theory presented at the EMBTI shows how fractal patterns can model how chaos or unconsciousness emerges into ordered patterns of consciousness. This benefits all type and temperament studies.

The Community Forum has several innovative features that integrate the Journal with the Community Forum with a single click of your "mouse". I'm speaking of your computer input device, of course, and not the small mammal clicking its teeth in the corner of your computer room. Yes, you do need some general familiarity with the Internet in order to read the on-line Journal and write messages at the Community Forum. We would like to think that this is a particularly good and 'user friendly' place to learn to do these things. I will try to illustrate this by walking you through the process on exploring the EMBTI Community Forum.

Walkthrough
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There are basically two ways to reach the Community Forum message board.

  • First, you can click on one of various links at this site, and then bookmark the address or place it in your 'Favorites Folder'. Later, when you want to return directly to the Community Forum, just click your mouse on the address, cross your fingers, and if your computer modem is connected to your telephone line, then it will all happen automatically, and rather quickly if you have an up-to-date Browser.

  • Or, imagine that you are reading an article in 'The Enneagram and the MBTI Journal' and want to comment on that article or ask a question. You can use the 'mail author' button at the top of the article, but now we have also added a 'comment' button, like the one at the top of this page. Click on the comment button and you will be taken directly to the 'Comment on Journal Articles' section of the Community Forum. Click on that tag and post a 'follow-up' comment. Your comments will appear at the Community Forum, where the author and/or anyone else can reply to you. The communication gets one step closer to being a genuinely interactive public dialogue. [Try clicking on the 'comment' button at the top of this article, and you'll see what I'm talking about].

At the Community Forum, you will see the following options listed on a horizontal line at the top-

[Post Message ][Subscribe to Email Delivery of Postings] [FAQ][Journal][Walter]

If you click on 'post message' you will be presented with a message box in which you can post a message, creating a new message in the 'general' thread at the bottom of the page. If you want to post a follow-up to another message, scroll down the page, pick the message you want to read and/or post a follow-up to, and click on it.

If you click on 'subscribe to email delivery of postings' you will be led a section where you can submit your email address in order to receive postings via email. You have two options - 1) receive each posting in a separate email, as soon as the posting occurs, or 2) receive a 'digest' of all postings when enough have accumulated to warrant a posting. The digest will not be mailed any more frequently than once per day. The 'subsribe to email delivery of postings' will also take you to a place where you can UNsubscribe from this service, if that is your desire.

Clicking on 'FAQ' will take you to a 'frequently asked questions' page that may help you answer questions about how to use the board, and/or help you if you are having trouble posting a message.

The 'Journal' tab will take you back to the front page of 'The Enneagram and the MBTI Journal'. And if you click on 'Walter', and your browser is set up for emailing, an email message box will appear, with my email address in it. If you are having a problem that is not answered on the 'FAQ' page, or you have questions or comments about the board, drop me a line.

Try the tags directly above! But please don't post unnecessary 'test' messages - or, if you must, please put them in 'Suggestions'.

Special Interest Areas
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There is also a second field of options at the top of the 'Community Forum', which looks something like this -

[Special Requests][Suggestions][Comment on Journal Articles]
[Multicultural Issues] [Community Building][Philosophy][Type Diversity] [Religion & Spirituality]
[Counseling & Psychotherapy] [Jungian Type] [Empirical Studies] [Art & Culture]
[Careers & Occupations] [Organizational Development & Management]
[General][Create Your Own Thread]

This list of options illustrates an innovative feature of the EMBTI Community Forum. The Forum is organized into several Interest Areas, in order to help organize dialogues. If you scroll down the message board, you will see that these tags correspond to various areas under which you can post. To do so click on the tag under which you want to post, and post a message when you get to the next screen. If you want your message to have a new subject heading, just type a new phrase in the 'subject' box - the message will still be posted in the 'interest area' that you have chosen, but it will have your 'subject' label on it. For instance - you want to post a message under 'Jungian Type' on something you've read about the tertiary function. Click on 'Jungian Type' and then write a follow-up message with the subject heading 'tertiary function'. Then click on 'submit followup' and your message will be previewed. If it is satisfactory, then press 'post message', and it will be posted. If you notice a mistake and want to change it, use your 'back' button to go back and change it. Then once again press 'submit' and, finally, 'post'.

The purpose of Interest Areas is to keep all dialog on one common subject in the same area. So when you click on an Interest Area at the top of the page, you will be taken to that Area automatically, without the need to scroll and hunt, scroll and hunt. When visitors come with a question that is new for them, but one that has already been answered, then the visitor may find an answer already waiting for them. This is called "not reinventing the wheel".

Like most other boards, you can click on any message you see and create a 'follow-up' to that message (which will be located directly below it, indented).

Finally, if you don't want to post your message in an already existing Interest Area, then click on the last option - [Create You Own Thread], and your message will be placed below the Interest Areas, and will not be indented.

The 'Special Requests' Interest Area, is for requests for information or networking opportunities that visitors want to make of other visitors. If you need help with, say - finding a special resource, such as a Jungian therapist who uses the Enneagram - post a message in this section. Or if you are an INFP-8 and want to gather with others who have this combination for an on-line 'chat', please post notices in this section, where others will know to look for such special requests.

Click the 'Special Request' tag above and you'll find two messages that have already been posted there - one by Theodore K. Pitt on 9/30/98, seeking help from others who have used the MBTI in Premarital Counseling, the other a request made by Sandra Pomichter, also on 9/30/98. She's looking for resources about the use of the Enneagram in Business.

Section Five: Conclusion

If you have any problems using the board, just leave a Help message in this 'Suggestions' section - or, better yet, email me by using the 'Walter' button in the top row. Until we meet again the next time, enjoy the new Community Forum at the 'the Enneagram and the MBTI'!

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